Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy

"WP:CFDS" redirects here. For the criteria for speedy deletion, see WP:CFSD.

Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
2. Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

• Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

• Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
• Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
• Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

• Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
• Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).

C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

• This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
• This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
• This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

• Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
• This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
  • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
  • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
• This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
• Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

• This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
• The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

• This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

• A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
  • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
  • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
• If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 20:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 159 open requests ().

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

• Category:Ships built by the Lake Union Dry Dock Company to Category:Ships built by Lake Union Dry Dock Company - WP:C2B per WP:THE and WP:C2C per all the other subcategories of Category:Ships built in Washington (state) except:
  • Category:Ships built by the Western Boat Building Company to Category:Ships built by Western Boat Building Company - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:NJ Transit Bus Garages to Category:NJ Transit bus garages – C2B: sentence case Gjs238 (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:British prisoners of war (Napoleonic Wars) to Category:British prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars – C2C: Sibling category is called Category:Norwegian prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars. This category should be British prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars ^SMason_Garrison 20:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:13th millennium BC to Category:Millennia, Category:Late Pleistocene, Category:Holocene – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Category:14th millennium BC to Category:Millennia, Category:Late Pleistocene, Category:Holocene
• Category:15th millennium BC to Category:Millennia, Category:Late Pleistocene, Category:Holocene

• Category:33rd century BC to Category:4th millennium BC, Category:Centuries – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:Romani genocide survivors to Category:Romani Holocaust survivors – C2D: per Romani Holocaust. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:602 BC to Category:600s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Category:603 BC to Category:600s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:620 BC to Category:620s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:624 BC to Category:620s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:625 BC to Category:620s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:634 BC to Category:630s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:636 BC to Category:630s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:638 BC to Category:630s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:641 BC to Category:640s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:649 BC to Category:640s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:650 BC to Category:650s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:658 BC to Category:650s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:659 BC to Category:650s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:661 BC to Category:660s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:666 BC to Category:660s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:668 BC to Category:660s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:671 BC to Category:670s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:680 BC to Category:680s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:687 BC to Category:680s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:692 BC to Category:690s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:696 BC to Category:690s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:699 BC to Category:690s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
• Category:518 BC to Category:510s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:534 BC to Category:530s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:549 BC to Category:540s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:566 BC to Category:560s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:567 BC to Category:560s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:571 BC to Category:570s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:576 BC to Category:570s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:584 BC to Category:580s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:588 BC to Category:580s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:592 BC to Category:590s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:594 BC to Category:590s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
• Category:420 BC to Category:420s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:431 BC to Category:430s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:442 BC to Category:440s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:451 BC to Category:450s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:462 BC to Category:460s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:472 BC to Category:470s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:482 BC to Category:480s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:488 BC to Category:480s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
• Category:345 BC to Category:340s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
• Category:363 BC to Category:360s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
• Category:372 BC to Category:370s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
• Category:383 BC to Category:380s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
• Category:386 BC to Category:380s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
• Category:244 BC to Category:240s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
• Category:248 BC to Category:240s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
• Category:267 BC to Category:260s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
• Category:288 BC to Category:280s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
• Category:290 BC to Category:290s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
• Category:136 BC to Category:130s BC, Category:Years of the 2nd century BC
• Category:142 BC to Category:140s BC, Category:Years of the 2nd century BC
• Category:151 BC to Category:150s BC, Category:Years of the 2nd century BC
• Category:28 BC to Category:20s BC, Category:Years of the 1st century BC

• Category:Prisoner in Los Almendros camp to Category:Inmates of Los Almendros camp – C2C: siblings in Category:Prisoners and detainees by prison follow Inmates of FOO ^SMason_Garrison 13:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:College soccer tournaments by state or territory to Category:College soccer tournaments in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:College sports tournaments in the United States by state or territory. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
• REDIRECT Category:Meiji period to Category:Meiji era – C2D. These are categories for modern Japanese eras (one emperor's reign), not periods (many related emperors' reigns). Before 2019, these articles were at "NAME period." In 2019, there was a consensus move to "NAME." In 2022, there was another consensus move to unify all the current period's articles as "NAME era." The categories did not get moved at the same time, as they should have been. lethargilistic (talk) 23:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • REDIRECT Category:Taishō period to Category:Taishō era – C2D. This "era" category exists because of a previous speedy CFD in 2016. The move discussions for the page happened after that.
  • REDIRECT Category:Shōwa period to Category:Shōwa era – C2D.
  • REDIRECT Category:Heisei period to Category:Heisei era – C2D.
  • REDIRECT Category:Reiwa period to Category:Reiwa era – C2D.
• Category:Loch Ness Monster in fiction to Category:Loch Ness Monster in popular culture – C2C: per parent Category:Monsters in popular culture and most similar siblings in that tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
• REDIRECT Category:NA-importance Animation articles by work groups to Category:NA-importance Animation pages by work groups – C2C. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose until the code to change is identified We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. Note to closing admin Please do not list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:American extradition case law to Category:United States extradition case law – C2E: Also parents are United States case law by topic ^SMason_Garrison 20:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:Migration Policy of Germany to Category:Migration policy of Germany – C2A: fixing capitalization Wikihistorian (talk) 11:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of Low-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of Low-importance – C2C: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7 BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 09:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of NA-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of NA-importance
  • Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of Mid-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of Mid-importance
  • Oppose until the code to change is identified We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. Note to closing admin Please do not list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:Pacific Remote Islands Marine National Monument to Category:Pacific Islands Heritage Marine National Monument – C2D Pacific Islands Heritage Marine National Monument has been renamed. Reywas92^Talk 22:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:Academy of Sciences and Arts of Kosovo to Category:Kosova Academy of Sciences and Arts – C2D: Kosova Academy of Sciences and Arts. FromCzech (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
• Category:Members of the Academy of Sciences and Arts of Kosovo to Category:Members of the Kosova Academy of Sciences and Arts – C2D: Kosova Academy of Sciences and Arts. FromCzech (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Opposed requests

• Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex-related events – C2C: Category:Intersex-related works. LIrala (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• @LIrala: it should rather become Category:Intersex events per e.g. Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Groups of entertainers to Category:Loosely defined groups of entertainers – C2A: More specific phrasing to communicate the premise of the category. TheActualDamnPeterGriffin (talk) 1:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  I do not think this satisfies any speedy criteria.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Definitely not a criteria under "C2A", or any speedy for that matter. ^SMason_Garrison 11:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Silent film actors to Category:Silent-film actors – C2A: Compound modifier; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are silent films. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  Speedy oppose. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have Silent film people as the parent category. ^SMason_Garrison 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Category:Silent film comedians to Category:Silent-film comedians
  • Category:Silent film actors by nationality to Category:Silent-film actors by nationality
  • Category:Silent film actresses to Category:Silent-film actresses
  • Category:Male silent film actors to Category:Male silent-film actors

• Category:Extinct monotypic bird genera to Category:Prehistoric monotypic bird genera – C2C: a few birds such as the Choiseul pigeon or the broad-billed parrot are contemporarily extinct ; the others are prehistoric ans should be moved to a relevant category (by renaming this one?) --Couiros22 (talk) 12:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Couiros22: not sure that this fits speedy because Category:Extinct animals is a valid category tree too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

In that case, just create a new category? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Chief Secretaries of Ceylon to Category:Chief secretaries of Ceylon – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 07:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of Sierra Leone to Category:Colonial secretaries of Sierra Leone
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of Cyprus to Category:Colonial secretaries of Cyprus
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of Fiji to Category:Colonial secretaries of Fiji
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of Gibraltar to Category:Colonial secretaries of Gibraltar
  • Category:Chief Secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony) to Category:Chief secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony)
  • Category:Chief Secretaries for Ireland to Category:Chief secretaries for Ireland
  • Category:Chief Secretaries of Kenya to Category:Chief secretaries of Kenya
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of Mauritius to Category:Colonial secretaries of Mauritius
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of New South Wales to Category:Colonial secretaries of New South Wales
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of New Zealand to Category:Colonial secretaries of New Zealand
  • Category:Chief Secretaries of Nigeria to Category:Chief secretaries of Nigeria
  • Category:Chief Secretaries of Northern Rhodesia to Category:Chief secretaries of Northern Rhodesia
  • Category:Chief Secretaries of Palestine to Category:Chief secretaries of Palestine
  • Category:Chief Secretaries of Singapore to Category:Chief secretaries of Singapore
  • Category:Colonial Secretaries of Tasmania to Category:Colonial secretaries of Tasmania
• Category:Chief Secretaries of Transjordan to Category:Chief secretaries of Transjordan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colonial Secretaries of Western Australia to Category:Colonial secretaries of Western Australia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., Category:Vice presidents of the United States, categories under Category:Defense ministers by country, categories under Category:Governors-general, and categories under Category:Deputy prime ministers; see also articles like List of secretaries of state of the United States, List of secretaries general of the Western European Union, etc.) WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

• @WikiEditor50: are you planning to move these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Hi. Yes, please do WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

• Category:Colonial Secretaries of Prince Edward Island to Category:Colonial secretaries of Prince Edward Island – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colonial Secretaries of Newfoundland to Category:Colonial secretaries of Newfoundland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colonial Secretaries of Bermuda to Category:Colonial secretaries of Bermuda – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colonial Secretaries of Barbados to Category:Colonial secretaries of Barbados – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colonial Secretaries of the Bahamas to Category:Colonial secretaries of the Bahamas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Chief Secretaries of British Guiana to Category:Chief secretaries of British Guiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Provincial Mayors of Cusco Province to Category:Provincial mayors of Cusco province – C2D: Cusco province. Also C2A with MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Suicides in Ancient Macedonia to Category:Suicides in ancient Macedonia – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Suicides in Ancient Greece to Category:Suicides in ancient Greece – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Museums of Ancient Near East to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East – C2A Russian Rocky (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Asia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Asia
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Israel to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Israel
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Jordan to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Jordan
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Lebanon to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Lebanon
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Syria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Syria
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Turkey to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Turkey
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Europe to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Europe
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Austria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Austria
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in France to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in France
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Russia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Russia
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United Kingdom to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United Kingdom
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Scotland to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Scotland
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in North America to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in North America
  • Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United States to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United States
  • Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Novels set in the ancient Near East
  • Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Films set in the ancient Near East
  • Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East to Category:Sculpture of the ancient Near East
  • Category:Ancient near eastern cosmology to Category:Ancient Near Eastern cosmology

• Oppose all needs discussion. Johnbod (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

• What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

• I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.

Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Russian Rocky: are you planning to move this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

• Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
• See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

On hold pending other discussion

• Category:Indigenous leaders in South America to Category:Indigenous leaders of South America – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" ^SMason_Garrison 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

  Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of ^SMason_Garrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

    Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? ^SMason_Garrison 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

• The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_29#Category:Indigenous_leaders_of_the_Americas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Possibly fictional pirates to Category:Pirates whose existence is disputed – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed ^SMason_Garrison 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

  Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe ^SMason_Garrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Stainton, south Cumbria to Category:Stainton, Westmorland and Furness – C2D: Match Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose ambiguous with Stainton, Dacre, see User talk:Hey man im josh#Stainton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

  Postpone until we know the result of the proposed move of Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Moved to full discussion

• Category:Peggy Jay family to Category:Jay-Garnett family - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of Peggy Jay. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

  I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

  Hi @Ymblanter I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas to Category:Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War ^SMason_Garrison 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. ^SMason_Garrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? ^SMason_Garrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    Done at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    Discussion was relisted on CFD 2024 Dec 30. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

• Category:Alvarado wrestling family to Category:Alvarado professional wrestling family – C2C: Per all other subcategories of Category:Professional wrestling families. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Brought up for Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Category:Alvarado wrestling family.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

    Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 1. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

• Category:Neapolitan families to Category:Families of Naples – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Italian families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Agreed and brought up for full discussion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 1. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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