Talk:Islam Karimov

Image

The image on the bottom of the page seems to be broken. First of all, the picture is unproportional and that's what attracted a lot of attention (for it's well-nigh ugly) and made me click on it, but when you got there, on the image page (the page with descriptions) there's a cropped picture with rather good quality. What's that? A bug? Maybe this is the real reason why: "This image is protected from modification because it is currently or will soon be on the Main Page." --Dennis Valeev 03:54, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Correct form of his name

The surname of the president of Uzbekstan, is Karimana or Karimai, and not "Karimov". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.12.65.237 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, well right now the article mixes the spelling up ridiculously. We need to decide on which spelling to use and be consistent. Now, I've only ever heard his name as "Karimov", but I'm just an American. Normally, though, we will tend to favor the usage that is most common in English, since this is the English Wikipedia. Everyking 03:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

No, his surname is Karimov. It's Каримов in russian and Каримов in uzbek language. Just read english, russian and uzbek newspapers. Or you can go to the official governmental website (http://gov.uz). There's his name in english, russian and uzbek. Anton Kovalyov —Preceding undated comment added 18:56, 17 October 2006

Hi I'm from Uzbekistan. His correct last name is Karimov in English and Uzbek (Latin), Каримов in Russian and Uzbek (Cyrillic) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.5.238.53 (talk) 20:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Bad sources, outdated claims

The given article does not discuss support having "further sparked anti-American sentiments among the world's Muslims". Uzbekistani forces violently clashed with protestors earlier this year, the US strongly condemned the government's actions, and Karimov decided to kick the US troops out. The Guardian article even discusses US support for human rights groups in the country working toward reform. [Ex.:] [1] [2] [3]

The edit war is silly because it is simply a matter of a user who has been harassing me. But inserting the exact same material with no critical look at it or the involved sources is not much better. --TJive 22:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Please edit the sentences to reflect what is actually in the articles, or in more current pieces - I only object to censoring all info about the US relationship with karimov which is what seemed like was going on.--csloat 22:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Original ethnicity

When I read the article it said, "He was born in an orphanage." Most occupants of orphanages were not BORN inside the orphanage, so with no expertise I changed it to, "He was placed in an orphanage at birth." If my correction is incorrect, I apologize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.138.44 (talk) 01:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

I've heard that he was an ethnic Tajik, is it true? By the way he seems to have a hate against Turkey, does anybody know why? Orhanoglu 23:41, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

He is a Tajiki-speaking Uzbek. I.e. he is an Uzbek by ethnicity, but his mother tongue is Tajiki, because he was born in the Tajiki-speaking city of Samarqand.

Don Alessandro 17:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

He is half Tajik and half Uzbek and that is why he speaks both Uzbek and Tajik, as for Samarkand it is not Tajiki speaking city. It is a city where many Tajiks reside, and since he is one of them, he speaks Tajik. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.243.152.99 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

He has no Uzbek blood. His mother Sanobar Karimova was Tajik. His official father Abdughani Karimov was Persian, but it's well known that Abdughani Karimov was imprisoned in 1936-1941 (Islam Karimov was born in 1938). It's rumoured that his real father was a Jew, Itzhak Mirzokandov. 85.141.75.8 (talk) 21:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

FYI

"Until 2005, the worst excesses of Karimov’s regime had taken place in the torture rooms of his prisons. But on May 13, he ordered a mass killing that could not be concealed. In the city of Andijan, 23 businessmen, held in prison and awaiting a verdict, were freed by their supporters, who then held an open meeting in the town square. An estimated 10,000 people gathered, expecting government officials to come and listen to their grievances. Instead, Karimov sent the army, which massacred hundreds of men, women and children. A 2003 law made Karimov and all members of his family immune from prosecution forever." (http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2006/edition_01-22-2006/Dictators) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.196.60.42 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

His religion?

What religion is Karimov? Josh 06:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Karimov is a person, not a religion. He has said he does not believe in God, but recently he has been using Islamic imagery in his speeches. KazakhPol 18:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess Karimov is really a religion... :-) СЛУЖБА (talk) 21:50, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Endorising child labor

Hi I am from Uzbeksitan.

Karimov is a big supporter of child labor, I think it should be added to the article. Here are sources: [4][5][6][7][8][9]

Also I think it should be mentioned that although officially he is a Democratic President in reality his ruling is dictator ship, this is said in links that are already cited, and that he is probably going to be ruling until death since he has been making laws that keep extending his term, and the elections are never fair. This is also said in the links that are already in article.

p.s. there is a user here I think is from Uzbek Government that is filtering such truths about Karimov, what can we do about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.238.53 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

1. The Uzbek government's alleged use of child labor is irrelevant to this article unless you can provide a source in which Karimov mentions child labor or an accusation that he himself is aware/approves of it. It is relevant to the Economy of Uzbekistan article.

2. I have never heard of nor seen a dictator ship. Unless you can provide a source in which he is accused of this, you cannot add it to this article per the WP:BLP policy.

3. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. We cannot speculate on what Karimov will most likely do.

4. Implying that I work for the Uzbek government and that I am "filtering truths" is quite incivil. Please review WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. KazakhPol 22:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

1) I'm sorry that 5 sources that I provided did not meet your standards, maybe if I go back to Uzbekistan, and do a documentary

about a thing that everyone in Central Asia knows about, you in particular would be happy, or maybe you'll ask me if that's fake

too. You should know better right since you do research on Kazakhstan, even though I'm from Uzbekistan. Doesn't the article in Wikipedia, that already says that Karimov controls the entire government tell that he

might control the cotton production too.

2) I'm sorry that you have never heard of dictatorship before, it is a type of government,(kind of like communism but everyone

isn't equal) where the government controls everything, and dictates what to do to other "independent" organizations. Which what :: exactly Uzbekistan is. In constitution it that it is a democratic country, just like USA, but it reality it is not, businesses, :: media, everything is controlled by Karimov. I'm sorry, but the sources that are already there, cite that, so I don't provide

with anything more, but if you want more you can just search in Google.

3) I'm not suggesting that Wikipedia is a crystal ball, in fact it is not, what I was saying is, that Karimov is a dictator (see

# 2) and since he controls everything, it is likely that his daughter will become the "president" in the next "elections" in

2008 (I don't think I need to explain furthermore to an intelligent person right?) but I agree, you've got a point, it is not

necessary, but like I said I was just suggesting.

4) I'm sorry that you took it so harshly, even though I wasn't saying it about you. Again I'm sorry, even though I wasn't talking

about you. Anyways I looked at the rules and it doesn't say that you couldn't say that some one keeps filtering truths about

a corrupt government, and suggesting that it might be an official of that government. You might have thought that it was a

personal attack on you, so again I'm sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.238.53 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Islom and Islam

(copied-and-pasted discussion from KazakhPol and Švitrigaila's talk pages)

I saw De Wikiman changed his name back to Islam. I do not understand how you see his Russian name as Islam and his Uzbek name as Islom. Neither Islam nor Islom are Russian or Uzbek. They are transliterations of how his name is pronounced. Google and Yahoo get way more results with Islam than with Islom. KazakhPol 16:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Islom Karimov is his Uzbek name. Uzbek language uses the Latin alphabet, so there is nothing to "transliterate". Only names from languages written with another alphabet are "transliterated". His name is Islom Karimov and that's all. There is no more need to transliterate Islom Karimov than to transliterate Lech Wałęsa or François Mitterrand. And you'll remark that O‘tkir Sultonov or Shavkat Mirziyoyev's names are given on Wikipedia in their only correct form, without any "transliteration" from the Latin alphabet to the Latin alphabet.

My remark about the mix was because De Wikiman changed Islom Abdug‘aniyevich Karimov into Islam Abdug‘aniyevich Karimov, thus changing only the given name (with no explication and no discussion) and not the patronymic name. But Abdug‘aniyevich is the Uzbek spelling of it. So the spelling Islam Abdug‘aniyevicch is an inept mix of his Russian and Turkmen names.

And I absolutely don't care about the "it's-the-most-often-found-form-of-his-name-argument". This kind of arguments has no place in a serious encyclopedia. An encyclopedia must give exact facts, not most common received ideas. It must then give exact names with exact spellings, rather than most commonly found spellings.

Švitrigaila 10:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Uzbek is a cyrillic language and was officially recognized as such until the '90s. His name is Islam because he is nominally a Muslim. "Islom" doesnt mean anything. KazakhPol 19:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

No. Uzbek is now written in latin alphabet. And his name is Islom because his parents chose it. Kristján Eldjárn is not named Kristján because he's christian, but because his parents chose that name. We won't write his name Christian Eldyarn because "Kristán doesn't mean anything". Švitrigaila 19:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Really? His parents chose his name to be Islom? Interesting, since he was born in 1938 and the Uzbek language wasnt written in the Latin alphabet until 1992. His parents predicted the future? KazakhPol 19:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

No. But Uzbek language written with the Cyrillic alphabet already used a o at this place. His name in Uzbek was already Ислом Каримов as you can see here. And the prononciation was already Islom since a long a in Uzbek is pronounced and written o, like in Persian language. Ислам Каримов was his Russian name, as Aleksandr Moroz was Oleksandr Moroz's Russian name. Švitrigaila 20:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Švitrigaila on this. —Nightstallion (?) 15:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow

Wow, no one even mentioned that this president has been rated as one of the top worst dictators ever, by many many people. Or does someone keep removing above mentioned statement. Parade Magazine, United Nations, Human Rights Watch, and many others have noted him as the worst dictators... if you google this you'll find about 500000 results for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.86.28.125 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Dictator

He is a dictator but people FAIL to prove it! We need to fight back - education in Uzbekistan is so weak that students don't even know what their government is about. The level of corruption is unbelievable. People are starving. We really need some further research - it may not be written on BBC's website but he is a dictator and the world lacks in educated people from Uzbekistan.

Recently, a journalist who was writing about this was murdered.

Karimov suppressed revolution in Andijan by the people who were FED UP, Andijan Massacre explains it but not fully. He has killed people and is president for life. His daughter is also very notorious,

I ask those who write for/edit wikipedia to help us say more about it for we're trying to fight for justice. Trust us for we know more. I myself grew up there and I know what I'm saying.

I also support "Islom" more than "Islam". "Islam" - even though it's a word in English, came from Russian, which is NOT VALID in this case. It is about Uzbekistan and Uzbek language written in ENGLISH on wikipedia.

I'm affraid to write about this and I ask you to hide my IP address.

Thank you

PS: It is indeed true that the government "filters" internet - so please help us spread the word and the truth - we're tired of censorship.

If you want to hide your IP address, then you need to get an account on Wikipedia. Then, every time you make a contribution, your user name will be shown and not your IP address. --Zashitnik (talk) 16:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Jacques Chirac

Uhm.... that last section involving Jacques Chirac and their apparently friendly ties.... I think it needs a source. The wording sounds a bit opinionated, also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyrannischgott (talk • contribs) 04:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Uzbek page

Hey, can't anyone translate it to Uzbek? I mean, I just looked at that page, and it is really just a stub. C'mon we can educate the people of Uzbekistan about this... this... this horrible abomination of human rights... Sure they will try to change it back, but you can't beat proof. I can only do Russian, even though my mother is from Uzbekistan I never learnt it unfortunately...

122.104.147.240 (talk) 07:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Name

The use of "Islam" is just far more common in English. On English web pages, excluding Wikipedia, "Islam" is ten times more common than "Islom". Most of the top hits for "Islom" are for obscure and unreliable sites. He is called "Islam Karimov" by well known sources like the BBC. He is also apparently called "Islam" by, er, the Uzbek embassy in Washington (hits for "Islom Karimov from that site). It should be at Islam. john k (talk) 04:31, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

He's also called Islam on the English page of the president's press service. And on the English version of the Uzbek foreign ministry page. If the Uzbek government is calling him "Islam," and the western press calls him that, I don't see where we come off using a different name. john k (talk) 04:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright, Svitrigaila, could you please respond to my arguments? If both western news services and Uzbek official sources call him "Islam" in English, why on earth should Wikipedia use a less familiar form? john k (talk) 06:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I used to work at the company which designs governmental web-sites, and I know how they write English contents - they simply translate into Russian, and then into English, so that's why we have transliterations of Russian forms of Uzbek names on official sources. Our President's name in Uzbek is Islom Abdug‘aniyevich Karimov and I'm moving the page back. Abdullais4u (talk) 17:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how what his name is in Uzbek is relevant. The question is what is his name in English. If the Uzbek government is content to have its English language contents call him "Islam Karimov," for whatever reason, I don't see how we should be more rigorous. We shouldn't be more Uzbek than the Uzbek government. Notice, for comparison's sake, Alexander Lukashenko. Notice how the article is not at Alyaksandr Lukashenka. Basically - it does not matter at all what name is used in Uzbek (which is, of course, a name in the Cyrillic alphabet). What matters is what name is used in English. Once again, not only does the vast majority of western media call him "Islam Karimov," but the Uzbek government's own English language websites do. That they may do this out of negligence rather than a strong intention is totally irrelevant - it merely shows that they don't care about the issue, and are happy to see his name written as "Islam." Our naming guidelines as currently written clearly indicate that this article should be at Islam Karimov, and you'd need to present evidence about usage in English to make a case for Islom Karimov. john k (talk) 21:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The main difference between the cases of Lukashenka and Karimov is that Russian is the official language of Belarus (co-official with Belarusian language) and that Lukashenka himself expressed several times that he is Russian himself. In Uebekistan, Uzbek language is the only official language and Islom Karimov asserts his Uzbek identity. Švitrigaila (talk) 10:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the analogy is not perfect. Nonetheless, Karimov allows official government sites to use "Islam Karimov" in English. Until the Uzbek government stops putting out material that uses "Islam," I don't see how we can assert that the proper official spelling in English is "Islom." john k (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

He can allow what he wants, but I’ve never heard he forbade the spelling Islom. Some of the very sources you talk about can be read in German too. On those German pages, his name is spelled Islam Karimow with a w. Of course, there is no good reason for that, except if such forms are transcriptions from another alphabet (like Boris Jelzin, which is the German transcription of Борис Ельцин — in English Boris Yeltsin). But then, there is no good reason to transcribe an Uzbek o (pronounced o) to an English a. Therefore such transcriptions are transcriptions from Russian languange, not from Uzbek language. The conclusion is that the websites you talk about are originally written in Russian language and translated from Russian language. Islam Karimov is his Russian name, not his "English name". He has no English name since he’s not English. And we have no good reason to use his Russian name rather than his Uzbek name if we know both. Švitrigaila (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Correct spelling in English - Islam. Islom - it is nameof Islam religion on Uzbek. You doesn't say O'zbekiston, right? President Nursultan Nazarbayev called on the Uzbek Nursulton Nazarboev. This is especially the grammar of Uzbek language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.80.170.74 (talk) 09:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

So, on the same grounds, I guess you’d request that the article about Kristján Eldjárn has to be renamed to Christian Eldjárn since the "correct English spelling" for a follower of the Christ is Christian, not Kristján. And you should add: "You doesn’t say Ísland, right?" ... Of course not! A name is a name, and we must respect it and its spelling regardless of its etymology. Kristján Eldjárn is called Kristján Eldjárn in Icelandic language and he has no name in English, because Iceland is not an English speaking area. So we use his Icelandic name. The same apply for Islom Karimov. He has no English name and we must chose between his Uzbek name Islom or his Russian name Islam. And since Russian is no longer an official language in Uzbekistan... Švitrigaila (talk) 17:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Lukashenko has never called himself as Russian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.80.170.74 (talk) 09:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Another Islom

And what about Islom Inomov? Must he be renamed Islam Inamov too? I suppose he musn’t. But if he’s not, there will be an inconcistency. Such inconstencies are normal when you read several sources. They are abnormal if they’re found in one book. If we want Wikipedia to be an encyclopedia (that is a "comprehensive survey of facts, ordered and classified"), a principle of consistency must be scrupulouslely observed. If not, then Wikipedia will be only a "comprehensive survey of facts", but not an encyclopedia. Švitrigaila (talk) 17:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

And yet, Mikhail Gorbachev and Michael of Russia. The guidelines are very clear and unambiguous on this - articles are titled by the most commonly used name in English, without regard to consistency between articles. john k (talk) 22:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

This is a different case. It involves a monarch. Names of monarchs are usually anglicised in English. СЛУЖБА (talk) 22:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Religion

Is there any information about his religion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Travelbybus (talk • contribs)

I have removed Category:Uzbekistani atheists from the article since at this stage the article says nothing about his personal religious beliefs. Just because he was a communist does not automatically make him an atheist. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Son/daughters

Someone should note his two daughters and his son (Zafar Karimov) somewhere in the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.122.143 (talk) 23:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Who is Zafar Karimov? СЛУЖБА (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Time in office

The lead says he's been President since 1991, but the infobox says 1990. What's up?WIERDGREENMAN, Thane of Cawdor THE CAKE IS A LIE (talk) 19:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

He became president of the Uzbek SSR in 1990, so perhaps that's where the confusion lies? Uzbekistan wasn't a sovereign state until 1991, as far as I know.

I mean, he's lead the Uzbek state in some form since 1990, but wasn't the president of Uzbekistan until 1991, since that's when the country came to exist. Again, as far as my understanding of it goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.179.97 (talk) 01:57, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Is Islam Anti-Islam?

How can the "state's primary legitimacy" claim be "anti-Islamism" when the Soviet Communist dictator's name is Islam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WisconsinDude (talk • contribs) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

A) He's not a "Soviet Communist dictator". The Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore, and the nature of his position aside, He's also not a Communist in that he doesn't even claim to be one. I'll not go into the current economic system of Uzbekistan, except to say that it has no pretense of being a Socialist (remember that Communist states have never existed, only Socialist, as it is a phase) state anyway.

B)It's his name. Can a man named Christian be an Atheist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.179.97 (talk • contribs) 01:24, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Dead?

There are unconfirmed reports that he has died. See

• https://twitter.com/ARothWP/status/770345052631629824
• "Islam Karimov Rumored Dead, Uzbekistan Ponders Future". The Moscow Times. 29 August 2016. Retrieved 2016-08-29.
• "Reports of Death of Uzbekistan's Longtime Dictator Spark Succession Concerns". Foreign Policy. 2016-08-29. Retrieved 2016-08-29.

Official sources are reporting that he's still alive.

-- Markshale (talk) 21:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Another source: svoboda.org --Norden1990 (talk) 21:35, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

• All the reports are traced back to a single one - Ferghana News, which is a known opposition news agency. He is either dead or at the state near to it, but we can't update the article unless multiple verifiable sources are updated. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:45, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
• This is the latest from the official site of press service of Uzbekistan - [10] - That he's in hospital. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:49, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
  • We can't say he's dead, since these are unconfirmed reports, but we certainly say that there are unconfirmed reports of his death, which is exactly what is being widely reported by multiple WP:RS. Ferghana has been a reliable source to date, according to the Washington Post reporter who re-reported this. Note that that official report is dated the 28th: today is already the 30th in Uzbekistan. -- Markshale (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
    • Perfectly right, you're edit is the only we can have in article until official announcement. And I believe there will not be official announcement until some safe transition is organised there by whoever is taking power there Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:55, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
      • • Yes. Regardless of whether he's dead or not, I would imagine there is a lot of frantic activity going on in Uzbekistan right now as various groups attempt to ensure the succession goes their preferred way. -- Markshale (talk) 22:31, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
      • You can see the latest news here. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:06, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
• I guess it's official now. With Reuters reporting it, citing diplomatic sources. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 08:53, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Image

Just proposing that this image might be better for the infobox. The photo quality is much better, and it's a very focused shot. No issues with its license, and it was used in the infobox before. 80.68.32.198 (talk) 09:50, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

• Agree it's better for infobox. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Update: The infobox picture has since been changed yet again, and the newer photo is defo an improvement imo, but I would still submit this one is more appropriate. 80.68.32.198 (talk) 12:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

• Agree, looks better. Beejsterb (talk) 02:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Death

Someone update about his death. I don't have the proper permissions to do so. Source link: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/uzbekistan-president-islam-karimov-dead-illness-a7221366.html. Typing this on the fly so ignore any unprofessionalism. NiklawskiMSTM traveled from the fourth dimension to deliver this text to you. Please thank him on his talk page. Or don't thank him. I'm Binary code, not a cop. 08:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Unofficial news does not substantiate the claim that he is dead. Therefore, it was massively inappropriate to update this with saying that he is dead. I have undone this. Κοματσουλάκης (talk) 11:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I added a reference on BBC about his death in the beginning and the health section, but I duplicated the reference by mistake so it will need to be combined. --Thebirdlover (talk) 11:54, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

He didn't die today. He died a couple of days ago. Although, they announced his death today. Therefor his date of death in the article is wrong.23.114.208.143 (talk) 01:16, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Some sources saying that he's not dead now... Beejsterb (talk) 02:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Could someone please put , or something similar after his date of death. 20:31, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Funeral

The list of the political figures who attended his funeral is not completed! There were delegations from the 17 countries, not only from Russia, Kazakhstan etc. For example, there was delegation from the United Arab Emirates and Japan, but this is not listed on the page. Azerbaijan was represented by the Head of the Parliament, that must be listed also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.167.5 (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Link to a DAB page

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Yıldırım Tuğrul Türkeş. The link under "Turkish" is Turk, which is a DAB page and therefore flagged as an error by DPLBot. The first four words should be piped to Deputy Prime Minister of Turkey. Could someone with editing rights fix this, please? Narky Blert (talk) 18:39, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

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Lead NPOV

In no way does the lead summarise Islom Karimov nor his political career. It is little more than a block of slander. Criticism and questionable UK and US media reports cover more than 50% of the lead. This needs to be fixed. SpikeballUnion (talk) 17:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I agree that the lede must we re-written. Currently one third of it is about the 2000 elections, and another 1/3 is that he died after being in an intensive care. This is not what the ledes of the articles about heads of states should describe.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:11, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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Biased trash article

Karimov was a great leader and statesman in the truest sense of the word. This article is NGO propaganda garbage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1006:B048:C4FB:BF21:7D61:39AE:A48C (talk) 03:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Mass murderer category

Would mass murderer category be appropriate here? 2600:100C:A218:9A7B:1909:92C2:AEA3:AF65 (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

No, generally we do not categorise politicians as mass murderers Ymblanter (talk) 21:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)