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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_December_18
December 18
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Sportspeople who died by suicide
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Sportspeople who died by suicide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Footballers who died by suicide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Jockeys who died by suicide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Rugby players who died by suicide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Cricketers who died by suicide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This category (under a slightly less nice name) was deleted in 2021, along with its subcategories, and recreated this year without discussion. I do not think there is anything new to overcome the 2021 consensus that this is a trivial intersection. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- If this is your feeling, then why not move to nominate all of the categories in Category:Suicides by occupation ?
- If you do not consider these categories worthy then there should not be a container category for them. As there is a container category, it is natural that people who find these categories useful / meaningful will continue to create them. Nayyn (talk) 11:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- The category is neutral, verifiable and defining. If you are unwilling to have a conversation about Category:Suicides by occupation then it does not constitute a trivial category. Nayyn (talk) 11:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This specific intersection is also non-defining. I've bundled the nomination, @Nayyn: @PARAKANYAA:SMasonGarrison 14:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Murdered sportspeople
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category was deleted in 2021, along with its subcategories, and recreated this year without discussion. I do not think there is anything new to overcome the 2021 consensus that this is a trivial intersection. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Same here @PARAKANYAA if this category is not meaningful or worthy of wikipedia, you should nominate Category:Murder victims by occupation or else these sub-categories will continue to be populated.
- Wikipedia has evolved since 2021 and if the reason to delete is simply because several years there was a conversation about it, the fact the categories are being created anew means they have utility on the site.
- Suggest for deletion the parent categories if they are not meaningful to the site. Nayyn (talk) 11:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This specific intersection is non-defining. SMasonGarrison 14:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- If this is "non-defining" then would it not apply to all in Category:Murder victims by occupation @Smasongarrison? Nayyn (talk) 14:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Otherstuffexists is not a good argument. You're better off demonstrating that this intersection is defining. SMasonGarrison 14:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- If this is "non-defining" then would it not apply to all in Category:Murder victims by occupation @Smasongarrison? Nayyn (talk) 14:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This specific intersection is non-defining. SMasonGarrison 14:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:NA-Class articles
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The pages in this category and all its subcategories seem to be largely automatically and incorrectly tagged, and I doubt we need it (whether named "articles" or "pages"). Something like Talk:Lists of animated feature films is now automatically a NA-class article of high importance, when in reality it should be an unassessed class article of high importance. Something like Talk:"Bob" is automatically put into "NA-class" when it should be in "Redirect class". The whole NA-class tree seems to be a giant mistake with many tens of thousands of pages. Fram (talk) 08:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Book leaks
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF. There aren't any articles specifically about leaks in this category, unlike the parent category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomSMasonGarrison 14:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:NBA Cup–winning players
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:NBA Cup–winning players to Category:NBA Cup-winning players
- Nominator's rationale: Incorrect English. It should be Cup-winning. We would always use a hyphen for compound words, while an ndash is used to separate phrases. Plus even if it were separate phrases an ndash would require spaces on either side. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Audiovisual introductions
[edit]- Propose merging Category: Audiovisual introductions in the 1st millennium BC to Category:1st-millennium BC introductions
- Propose merging Category: Audiovisual introductions in the 15th century to Category:15th-century introductions
- Propose merging Category: Audiovisual introductions in 1502 to Category:1502 introductions
- Propose merging Category: Audiovisual introductions in 1746 to Category:1746 introductions
- Propose merging Category: Audiovisual introductions in 1790 to Category:1790 introductions
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article categories, unhelpful for navigation. A second merge target isn't really necessary, two articles are already in Category:Precursors of film and for the other articles it is quite a stretch to say that they are about audiovisual technology. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Jewish white nationalists
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I don't believe this is a defining characteristic. Searching for the term brings up the category and news articles about white nationalism and anti-semitism, not Jews who support white nationalism. There are BLP concerns too with the living people included in the category. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete in principle, but what should be done about the child category Category:Neo-Nazis of Jewish descent ? SMasonGarrison 14:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)