Talk:Shopping cart

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Is there any standard for the e-shopping cart sofware???. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.203.94.172 (talk) 13:05, 3 May 2003 (UTC)

Anybody knows about shopping cart races???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonardo Alves (talk • contribs) 16:38, 31 March 2005 (UTC)

Limited Scope

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mexaguil (talk • contribs) 06:39, 12 April 2005 (UTC)

Should the above tag be places on the main article page maybe? i think so. THE KING 07:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Poorly written sentence?

Some setup must be done in the HTML code of the website, and the shopping cart software must be installed on the server which hosts the site or on the secure server which accepts sensitive ordering information.

That doesn't make much sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.121.54 (talk) 22:31, 25 June 2005 (UTC)

Probably for the online shopping cart feature (the "Add to cart" button and saving feature). - M0rphzone (talk) 00:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Removed Content

An anon user added:

"The poles that one uses to push the shopping carts are often stolen, as they are extremely durable and are often used as a street weapon. These are known as "trolley poles" or "cart poles"."

I have never heard of a pole used to push a shopping cart. If you can verify this statement, please rewrite it so everyone can understand it and re-add it to the article. -SCEhardt 23:05, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I think what he meant by pole is the shopping cart's handle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagittarian Milky Way (talk • contribs) 07:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I never knew that they were sometimes stolen and used as weapons, but then again, you learn something new every day. Chevymontecarlo (talk) 16:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Easy to manuever

Yeah its not exactly the most helpful edit, but I push carts in a wal-mart parking lot they are never easy to manuever, so I added quotes. --Eno-Etile 07:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

That section implied that All Four Wheels could swivel in any direction, which I modified- in store carts only the two front wheels swivel.Saxophobia 11:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

How many wheels swivel depends on where you live 84.65.121.218 12:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, quotes do help, as do references. Thanks. Chevymontecarlo (talk) 16:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Edited this part, I've been all around Europe and you never see fixed wheels at the rear over there.--82.171.121.117 (talk) 16:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Electronic Theft

The electronic theft section sounds like an advertisement to sell a product, it either needs to be rewritten or removed entirely. I have already removed the authors name and his advertisement for his website --Pchov 11:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Looking better, but it still needs some hard facts related to the theft protection of shopping carts. I removed the word "CartKey" from a newly added sentence in the theft section. The word itself has no meaning, it just sounds like a cleverly disguised advertisement for the Gatekeeper Systems (I believe they were the ones, or someone affiliated with them, who originally wrote the massive advertisement in this article not to long ago). --Pchov 19:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Haggard Move

A Shopping Cart also refers to a move or bad idea by Bam Margera. It involves getting in a Shopping Cart and someone pushing you into a curb or over a gap and you go flying as far as you can. No one should try it.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.130.138.131 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

The Main Picture

I think the Main Picture should be of a average shopping cart, The current picture has Shopping Carts that are not typical. Matthew1990 07:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Online Shopping Cart

Could use a link, to a disambiguation page or something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.228.42 (talk) 04:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Seconded, a disambiguation page or link to the electronic system with the same name is necessary in this day and age. dimo414 (talk) 03:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Too American

Too American! This has nothing about Europe or Australia and virtually nothing about Asia, where they are also used. It even refers to "foreign supermarket chains"! Shocking. -Locuteh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.35.111 (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed! The article mentions many countries where "Trolley" is used instead, covering more people than the USA. Therefore this article should be retitled Shopping Trolley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.30.188 (talk) 19:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

You appear to be wrong about the article. I can't find a version in which it mentions many countries where "Trolley" is used instead, covering more people than the USA. Is it possible you made a maths error? I added up the population of the countries using "trolley" mentioned in the current version of the article and it's less than half of the english speaking population of the US. In any case wikipedia has guidelines (WP:ENGVAR) in place for naming articles and use the version used by the set of countries with the largest total population isn't part of them.Zebulin (talk) 02:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

"Shopping cart" seems okay to me, and I'm British and so never use the term myself. I'm glad that "foreign supermarket chains" has been edited out, though: it's clearly unacceptable for articles about international subjects to deal with "the US" and "foreign parts". Yes, I know a lot do, but the point stands. Loganberry (Talk) 20:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It's ACTUALLY called a "carriage" anyway. Calling it anything else means you are from someplace dumb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.157.218 (talk) 07:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

(^What a pretentious idiot...) - M0rphzone (talk) 00:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately I worked as a trolley dolly for a few years when I was at college, and while that wasn't my official title the clue is in the name. While I obviously can see that different regions use different names, this article does seem to still be a little too region specific, so I've changed a few things;

"Often, customers are allowed to leave the carts in the parking lot, and store personnel, referred to as cart attendants, return the carts to the shop."

I've removed the 'cart attendents' bit. That wasn't my title and I suspect different stores or regions use different ones.

"The majority of carts only have swivel caster wheels on the front, while the rear ones are on a fixed axle."

I've never seen one. If they're around in the UK they certainly aren't in the majority. Changed to 'Some carts...'

--M4roho (talk) 01:57, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm from the UK but live in Asia and I find nothing too region-specific about the article now. I'm removing the front-page warning that the page is too American-centric. WillSmith (talk) 05:52, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Revised Theft Prevention section

I found a couple of articles that appear to describe the theft prevention system more thoroughly and (hopefully) more neutrally. It also provides proper references to describe how the electronic theft prevention system works without sounding like advertising. I've added and revised the content of this section to make it sound more neutral. Wxkat (talk) 11:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Invention of the shopping cart

Anonymous user 76.88.183.195 inappropriately removed scholarly references on the history of the invention of the shopping cart: revision history available here. Recent historical investigations have provided evidence of multiple innovations and controversies between early contributors to the invention of the shopping cart (Goldman among them). Typewritten (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

76.88.183.195, what's wrong with you? After several warnings, you persist in removing scholarly references in Shopping cart's historical section here, here and here, without discussing your rough action here. You've received several warnings in your talk page. Typewritten (talk) 08:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Similar vandalism here by new user Papupi. Sockpuppet? Typewritten (talk) 17:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

The Shopping cart was invented in 1937 by Sylvan Goldman of Oklahoma City. Several modifications were made to the cart by Goldman and others after it was introduced. The nesting cart (Nest Kart), baby seat, cup holder and add space name a few. Information on the invention should remain factual and relevant. papupi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Papupi (talk • contribs)

Please use "~~~~" in order to sign your comments. Typewritten (talk) 07:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Papupi, The policy of Wikipedia is to use external sources. With claims about historical facts, scholarly references are preferred (references in the history of innovation in that precise case). The two references that you just erased here are an example of such sources. One is a biography of Goldman (pub. University of Oklahoma Press). The other is an investigation based on archival materials and patent records (pub. University of Pennsylvania Press). Stop removing them. This is considered as vandalism. If you want to contribute in a constructive manner, please feel free to add other references or arguments, but do not destroy the work of others. You have received repeated warnings, and you've been blocked from editing because of that at least once (see here and here). Your recent edits are to be reverted again. If you persist in your disruptive edits, your conduct will be reported again to Wikipedia administrators. Typewritten (talk) 07:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Prices of carts in 'electronic theft' section

Do we really need the prices in the 'electronic theft' section? It sounds so like an advertisement. Chevymontecarlo (talk) 16:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Man lots of ppl talk about shopping carts. Im a bum and its the best way to transport cans to make $0.05. I had the same shopping cart since 1965, i build it custom. its interesting to hear about how theyve made them more modern since then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.242.64 (talk) 19:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I actually changed something with that. the cost of shopping carts can go up to 150.00.--Chef-Warden 19:26, 17 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkopicz3 (talk • contribs)

advertising

the kartlock entry reads like promo material from the kartlock company —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.147.245 (talk) 22:44, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

As a weapon?

Are there any citations for this?

On all the trolleys I have examined the handle is fairly light and pretty flimsy if you give it a good whack. I don't know why any thugs would prefer to carry a light piece of tube around than a lumpier more damaging weapon. Specially if they expect to be encountering people who are familiar with violence and probably can take a beating using such a weapon.

--Lakkasuo (talk) 12:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

References

Anyone know where the information about renting shopping carts came from? I'm doing a report for a class about the effectiveness of this method, and I'm having a hard time finding anyone talking about it. The fact that this entire section is unsourced isn't really helping. Anyone have any ideas?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 04:03, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

It's such a commonplace thing it is really hard to find any decent information that is reliable. So, good luck with your report ;)--Lakkasuo (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

It's funny that you say that because I had actually never heard of the idea until a few days ago when my girlfriend (who is from Korea.. I'm from the US) was complaining about Americans not having the system. I think it is a very good idea, and frankly I'm baffled as to why more chains in the US don't implement it. This practice may be commonplace throughout the rest of the world, but here in the states it's very rare. I searched for about two hours last night and found next to nothing usable. I don't really even know what to search for haha. Any clues to even get started? Really, anything will help. Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 22:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Mini Shopping Carts

Something I've happened upon at some stores are mini shopping carts for children. I'm not talking about small shopping carts like you find at dollar stores, but rather scaled down versions of the full size ones and intended to be pushed by a small child. (Most adults would have to stoop.) One kind I've seen had more or less caricature dimensions, but at least another model was so proportional it almost looks identical. Without anything else in a photo for scale, you would likely assume it was full size. Take a look:[1][2] Although this article could easily acquire too many images, I'd say this would make a good addition, or at least one of these photographed alongside a full size cart for scale. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.87.126 (talk) 22:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

These are quite common where I am. They're sweet. Maybe could be mentioned, but I'll leave it to someone else to do it if they deem it worthy. Sometimes I've seen them with a pole and a flag so that parents can spot a moving mini trolley in the crowd. --Lakkasuo (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Globalization

A globalization tag has been placed on this article. Amongst the image files is one of a trolley bay in the UK. The word "trolley" is used in the opening sentence. The image file, as described by the uploader is "Trolley bay". When looking at some other pages, for example: Pancake, Egg barley, and Truck, all have images using localized descriptions: "socca", "tarhonya", and "lorry". Please see MOS:COMMONALITY which is a subset of WP:LANGVAR before changing the file caption.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 01:58, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Respectfully, that's not correct. See the figure captions in sidewalk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:CA0D:8C00:6DAD:4EC2:2468:892B (talk) 00:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Sylvan Goldman & Piggly Wiggly

It's strange that shopping cart states Goldman developed the shopping cart for his Piggly Wigglys but the page for Piggly Wiggly doesn't mention Goldman and Goldman's page doesn't mention Piggly Wiggly. Winston Spencer (talk) 02:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Might be a case of mistaken identity (or sneaky vandalism). Changed to the Humpty Dumpty chain per refs.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 03:11, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Oddly the first refference for that section (http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/goldman.htm) mentions Piggly Wiggly and not Humpty Dumpty. Winston Spencer (talk) 03:23, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Google searches result in the HD chain. Piggy's website "About" section does not mention carts. It is possible that the stores Goldman owned, through sales/mergers, might now (today) be Piggys, but at the time they appear to be Humpty's.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 03:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I've also been digging around regarding Sylvan Goldman and the internet is entirely confused as to wether it was Piggly Wiggly or Humpty Dumpty. I would note that the Piggly Wiggly article mentions they were the first to use shopping carts (using https://hbr.org/2011/12/shopping-carts-will-track-cons). Winston Spencer (talk) 03:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I have removed the claim about being the first to use shopping carts from Piggly Wiggly. Goldman seems to have owned Standard and Humpty Dumpty, which merged later. Piggly Wiggly is better known so it is not surprising that it is sometimes given the credit. TSventon (talk) 13:23, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

"major public health concern"

>> sanitary wipes, for cleaning hands and shopping carts, are seen near the entrances of most retailers <<

This is a major exaggeration: certainly "most retailers" is patently false. I've shopped in many countries around the world and never seen any such wipes (besides which, most retail outlets do not provide shopping carts!) ...and I ain't dead yet! If the cleanliness or otherwise of shopping carts deserves mentioning in this article then it's a question that also merits rather more than sweeping, unreferenced assertions. -- Picapica (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Picapica, I've removed that whole sentence, A few retailers may do this but like yourself I've never seen this done (in the UK atleast) and I would imagine it's not really done elsewhere, As I said in the edit summary A few retailers isn't most so yeah removed :),

(Also a somewhat unrelated comment but doing this would be more of a financial loss and long-term it wouldn't be viable in the end (unless a charge is done for each wet wipe which unless you have someone monitoring a wet wipe then it's not going to work) Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 17:09, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Davey2010. It occurs to me (equally tangentially perhaps) that any retailer providing such wipes is effectively going to be saying: "Hey, look -- we've got dirty trolleys!" -- Picapica (talk) 00:56, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome, Haha exactly!!, Only best advice I can give to everyone reading is don't lick trolley handles lol, At the end of the day you pick up germs/bacteria no matter what you touch, It's a part of life, Anyway thanks for raising this, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 01:08, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Shopping trolley.

It should be renamed to shopping trolley, the term cart is only used by Americans, the majority of the population call this a trolley. In fact if you look up the definition of cart and trolley, trolley makes more sense. David127:1 (talk) 05:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@David127:1 "Shopping cart" returns 232 million results on Google, while "shopping trolley" returns only 3.5 million. Furthermore, Google Ngram counts "shopping cart" as at least six times more common than "shopping trolley". Oktayey (talk) 18:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Why is this listed as a start?

Rather than start-class, this looks more like a featured-article candidate. I found it really interesting and informative. Can people look it over, fix any things that seem in need of correction or addition, and then nominate?Kdammers (talk) 16:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Uncited Quotes

quotes about why people wouldn't use the carts come from a 1972 letter according to a CNN article https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/14/business/grocery-shopping-carts-history/index.html 47.7.21.131 (talk) 19:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)