Talk:Gregor Mendel

Citation Needed for Fischer's statement about Mendel's confirmation bias

this is a paper analyzing Fisher's Paper in regard to his criticism of Mendel and the Method used.

It's my first time here and I guess I'm not doing this right.. Sorry for that

Sekroy (Sekroy) 23:17, 27 July 2019 (MESZ)

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Nationality

There is an mistake in the article. Mendel was not Austrian, he was Moravian. More precisely, a German-speaking Moravian, at least that's what he himself claimed to be, a "German-speaking Moravian." So please correct it and instead of "Austrian" write his true nationality as "Moravian." Thank you Ondřej Mazáč (talk) 22:55, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

That's absolutely true. Me too, I don't understand it at all. His nationality can be only Moravian or Czech (with German ancestors), I don't understand at all why for example František Palacký born in the next village at the same time is Czech on the Wiki and some people are Austrian, and the argument is that Czech Republic didn't exist at times. For example Marie Curie isn't considered Russian scientist, because Varšava was Russian when she was born. Annikahegarova (talk) 10:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Bohemian kingdom still exist at that time and he was citizen of Bohemian kingdom. He claim himself to be Moravian, so he can be Moravian, German-moravian, German-czech, Czech, Bohemian or Silesian (German-silesian). I don't understand the system, how you decide one's nationnlity, but he is definitely not Austrian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JanaKometaDušková (talk • contribs) 15:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

In any case, why is the page currently saying German-Czech? While he might himself would have called himself German back in the time, the current meaning of the word is certainly different to how it was used back then. Should it not say Austrian-Czech? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:EE41:4:B23B:AC0E:4C:F14C:5FD8 (talk) 22:40, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

There is no moravian ethnicity. He was german, just as most Austrians of that time were ethnically, since German speaking, German. There was no Czech at that time and many german speaking germans/Austrians (lets keep it as a synonym in this case) were living in present day Czech. We all know why this changed several decades later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.117.204.214 (talk) 21:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

There is Moravian ethnicity. He spoke both Czech and German, see this article. Tobiasber (talk) 09:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

mrbust is on top

. 108.31.27.235 (talk) 22:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Another source of information.

In their July 18, 2022 issue, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), a peer reviewed journal of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), published a 'Special Feature' called "Gregor Johann Mendel and Modern Evolutionary Biology" in honor of the 200th anniversary of his birth. The issue is freely available at [1] . It contains a lot of information on his life, his work, and interactions with other scientists at the time, as well as the rediscovery of his work and the development of genetics.

+ The article titled "Gregor Johann Mendel: From peasant to priest, pedagogue, and prelate" by Daniel L. Hartl, Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology, Harvard University, gives his birth information as:

"Mendel was born on 20 July (or possibly 22 July) in 1822 and christened Johann. His parents were Anton Mendel and his wife Rosine (née Schwirtlich). Young Johann was the sixth generation of Mendels to be born in Heinzendorf bei Odrau (Hynčice), which was and remains a small village near the Moravian–Silesian border that at the time had a population of about 500."

It goes on to give details about his siblings, educational struggles, and career in the Church.

+ The article "Gregor Johann Mendel and the development of modern evolutionary biology" by Nils Chr. Stenseth (Centre for Ecological and Evolutionary Synthesis, Department of Biosciences, University of Oslo), et al, contains a chronology of Mendel's life with THIS birth information :

1822	Johann Mendel was born in Vražné in the Austro-Hungarian Empire (now the Czech Republic) on July 20th and baptized in a church in Hynčice on July 22nd†

Also see an image of a manuscript page from "Mendel's 1866 article entitled “Versuche über Pflanzen-Hybriden” (“Experiments on plant hybridization”) published in the Proceedings of the Natural History Society in Brno.", a painted portrait; and a photo of some of his peas.There's a list of the three Mendelian Genetic Laws. A combination timeline / family tree shows how Fisher et al tied together Darwin and Mendel, calling their work "The New Synthesis".

+ The article "Mendel and Darwin" by Andrew Berry and Janet Browne (both also of Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology, Harvard University) discusses the following :

Mendel-Darwin interaction: Mendel read a German translation of the On the Origin of Species in 1863, Second Edition. The authors go on to tell how Darwin had glancing exposure to Mendel, but did not actually read his publication. They felt that since Darwin wouldn't study German, had a distaste for mathematics, and probably would not understand the sentinel importance of Mendel's work beyond mere garden hybridization, he would have found the book boring and inconsequential.

The authors also address the anecdote that Darwin owned an offprint copy of Mendel's “Versuche über Pflanzen-Hybriden” (“Experiments on plant hybridization”), but never cut the pages open to read.

"Some historians have suggested that Mendel sent Darwin a copy in the mail [of his work, originally published in 1866 in the "Proceedings of the Natural History Society in Brno"]. These claims are impossible to substantiate, although we know that Mendel did distribute 40 copies to European colleagues at his own expense. There is no copy of the offprint in the existing Darwin archive."

[ ... ]

"What is easier to substantiate is that in 1881, Darwin did have access to a comprehensive published account [by Wilhelm Olbers Focke] of research into hybridity in which Mendel’s work was mentioned. [...] Focke remains in Darwin’s library. [...] Tellingly, this too has never been read because the pages retain the original uncut edges. Mendel’s work was literally a closed book to Darwin."

There are more articles in this special issue, but luckily for you, I have not yet read them. ^_^ Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 07:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Of mice and monks

Mendel began his studies on heredity using mice. He was at St. Thomas's Abbey but his bishop did not like one of his friars studying animal sex, so Mendel switched to plants According to this comment this story is debunked in Daniel J. Fairbanks' 2022 Gregor Mendel: His Life and Legacy. I don't have access to that book, but perhaps someone else does? the wub "?!" 23:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Ebook acquired and...yeah, I find Fairbanks' argument convincing. I've summarized it in the new text. Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Great, thank you! the wub "?!" 12:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)