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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_December_15

December 15

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Marshall family (political family)

Propose renaming Category:Marshall family (political family) to Category:Marshall family (politics)

Nominator's rationale: Per categories like Category:Smith family (politics), the disambiguator is the field, and doesn't repeat the word "family." Mike Selinker (talk) 06:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Publishing families needing disambiguation

Propose renaming Category:Graham family (newspapers) to Category:Graham family (publishing)

Nominator's rationale: These subcategories of Category:Publishing families need disambiguation, and I'd just standardize them to the style of Category:Simon family (publishing) since publishers tend to publish lots of things. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Category:Blackwood family (publishers), only two articles and they are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pulitzer family (newspapers)

Propose renaming Category:Pulitzer family (newspapers) to Category:Pulitzer family

Nominator's rationale: I don't see any other Pulitzer family categories. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chandler family (newspaper publishers)

Propose renaming Category:Chandler family (newspaper publishers) to Category:Chandler family

Nominator's rationale: I don't see any other Chandler family categories. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brown family (bankers of Baltimore)

Propose renaming Category:Brown family (bankers of Baltimore) to Category:Brown family (banking)

Nominator's rationale: I don't see any other categories of families named Brown in banking, and it should use the occupation name like Category:Stern family (banking). Mike Selinker (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral as category creator. When trying to come up with the title, I associated the family first with the city, but there were other Browns in Baltimiore so I added the bankers part. If banking alone is recognisable and precise enough then it should be fine. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Child family (English bankers)

Propose renaming Category:Child family (English bankers) to Category:Child family

Nominator's rationale: I don't see any other Child family categories. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Collins family (English writers and artists)

Propose renaming Category:Collins family (English writers and artists) to Category:Collins arts family

Nominator's rationale: Of all possible analogues, this is closest to the category Category:Nicholson arts family. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scott family (architects)

Propose renaming Category:Scott family (architects) to Category:Scott family (architecture)

Nominator's rationale: Generally Category:Families by occupation subcategories needing disambiguation use the occupation and a grouping of practitioners like "architects." Mike Selinker (talk) 05:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Association football families needing disambiguation

Propose renaming Category:Gray family (footballers) to Category:Gray family (association football)

Nominator's rationale: Several other subcategories of Category:Association football families use the full (and in this case, British) name of the sport to disambiguate. Typically, the disambiguator for any family category is a noun describing the occupation generally, not a grouping of practitioners like "footballers." Mike Selinker (talk) 05:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Muslim supporters of Israel

Propose renaming Category:Muslim supporters of Israel to Category:Muslim Zionists

Nominator's rationale: See the discussion in #Category:Arab supporters of Israel below. I've given my own arguments there. Basically it's for the sake of consistency; Category:Arab Zionists, Category:Christian Zionists, Category:Muslim Zionists. Do you get what I mean? AHI-3000 (talk) 03:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, Zionism and Christian Zionism are specific ideologies. Christian Zionism exists specifically within Evangelical Christianity. There is no Muslim Zionism ideology, the article with this name has incorrectly been moved only a few days ago. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Arab supporters of Israel

Propose renaming Category:Arab supporters of Israel to Category:Arab Zionists

Nominator's rationale: This category should either be renamed to be consistent with the child categories of Algerian Zionists etc, or the subcategories should be purged or renamed. Being a Zionist doesn't mean that you support the state of Israel. Zionism advocates for a Jewish homeland; not all Zionists support the state of Israel. And people who support Israel don't need to do so because of Zionism. @AHI-3000: for making me aware of the category naming discrepancy ^SMason_Garrison 03:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support and also rename Category:Muslim supporters of Israel to Category:Muslim Zionists, in order to match it with Category:Arab Zionists and Category:Christian Zionists. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with adding the category to the nomination. But you need to tag it. ^SMason_Garrison 03:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Smasongarrison: I already placed the CFD template on Category:Muslim supporters of Israel. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Smasongarrison: Should we combine #Category:Muslim supporters of Israel into this discussion? AHI-3000 (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I'm fine with adding the category to the nomination" ^SMason_Garrison 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Supporters of Israel are explicitly Zionists. Dimadick (talk) 03:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed. @Smasongarrison doesn't agree though, even though almost everyone agrees that "Zionist" is usually used to mean "supporter of Israel". These meanings are far from being mutually exclusive. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the point of tagging me? I literally made the nomination. I don't disagree that the common understanding is that these are often used as synonyms. ^SMason_Garrison 03:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So do you agree or not that Category:Muslim supporters of Israel is an appropriate subcategory of Category:Zionists? AHI-3000 (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not appropriate until it is renamed. ^SMason_Garrison 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, Zionism and Christian Zionism are specific ideologies. There is no Arab Zionism ideology. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anti-LGBTQ and Pentecostal churches

Propose merging Category:Anti-LGBTQ and Pentecostal churches to Category:LGBTQ and Pentecostalism

Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory, not usefully or pickily navigational. --MikutoH ^talk! 02:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't that remove the child category from the other parent of Category:Anti-LGBTQ and Christianity? ^SMason_Garrison 03:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Very strange title for a category. Are we supposed to categorise all Anti-LGBTQ churches here? Dimadick (talk) 03:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sport shooters from Odisha

Propose merging Category:Sport shooters from Odisha to Category:Sportspeople from Odisha

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 01:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating for merging

All categories with just 1 or 2 entries.Lost in Quebec (talk) 01:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wilson family (The Beach Boys)

Propose renaming Category:Wilson family (The Beach Boys) to Category:Wilson musical family

Nominator's rationale: All other subcategories of Category:Show business families where most are musicians use "X musical family" as a disambiguator, such as Category:Gibb musical family. Some instead use "X family (show business)" so this could instead be Category:Wilson family (show business) as per the nomination below. Mike Selinker (talk) 04:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Show business families needing disambiguation

Propose renaming Category:Baldwin acting family to Category:Baldwin family (show business)

Nominator's rationale: These are all subcategories or sub-subcategories of Category:Show business families. Most other such families use "show business" as their disambiguator (such as Category:Ladd family (show business), likely since actors direct, write, play music, and other show bizzy things.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 00:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support To match the parent category. Dimadick (talk) 03:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]